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November 19th, 2007

It’s time, once again for the Monday Message Board. As usual, civilised discussion and absolutely no coarse language, please.

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  1. November 19th, 2007 at 16:19 | #1

    A short political quiz for your consideration:-


    And a fun picture for your enjoyment:-


  2. Ian Gould
    November 19th, 2007 at 20:53 | #2

    So if Australian politics follows its normal path, Peter Costello will be leader of the Opposition by next week.

    That’s kind of a pity – it’s virtually unprecedented for a Federal Australian government to last a single term so the odds are Costello will lead the Liberals to defeat at the following election and losing Opposition leaders seldom get a second chance.

    So barring a miracle next Saturday or an extraordinary performance from Pete in Opposition he’s unlikely to ever be PM.

    That seems a little unfair since he’s the principal architect (along with Paul Keating) of Australia’s economic dream run over the last few years.

    In retrospect, he’s probably wishing he’d challenged Howard earlier this year.

  3. observa
    November 19th, 2007 at 23:58 | #3

    If Saddam really was the best option then Musharraf is to be placed on a pedestal. Discuss.

  4. November 20th, 2007 at 01:53 | #4
  5. Ian Gould
    November 20th, 2007 at 09:19 | #5

    According to the US Government Accountability Office, subsidies to fossil fuel use dwarf those to the renewable sector.


    “The GAO report looks specifically at research and development (R&D) and tax expenditures for fossil fuels, nuclear, and renewable energy from fiscal year (FY) 2002 through FY 2007. The report’s cover letter — addressed to Senators Thomas Carper (D-Del.) and Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), who requested the analysis — notes the importance of federal subsidies in light of energy’s crucial role within society.

    “Because of electricity’s importance to producers, consumers, and businesses, the federal government has undertaken a wide range of programs to develop the electricity sector, which includes fuel suppliers, electric utilities, and others in the electricity industry,” the letter states.

    The report shows total R&D expenditures from FY 2002 to FY 2007 to be $11.5 billion, which was distributed among nuclear ($6.2 billion), fossil fuel ($3.1 billion) and renewable energy ($1.4 billion). Total tax expenditures for the energy sector from FY 2002 to FY 2007 were $18.2 billion, with fossil fuel receiving $13.7 billion and renewable energy receiving $2.8 billion.”

    Of course, if we look at the relative contributions of oil and coal and renewables to current US energy use, the renewable sector preobably gets more subsidies per unit of power produced.

  6. gerard
    November 20th, 2007 at 11:24 | #6

    Well observa, think that’s pretty clever? I’d say that the current situation in Pakistan is better than an invasion and occupation of that country by foreign powers. This obviously doesn’t imply that General M is pedastal worthy.

  7. Ian Gould
    November 20th, 2007 at 15:41 | #7

    “If Saddam really was the best option…”

    How many options were considered?

    Ever hear of the fallacy of either-or?

  8. Ian Gould
    November 21st, 2007 at 17:40 | #8

    The Economist puts the case that America is heading for a recession.

    As US economic growth slows and welfare costs increase, look for the budget deficit to blow out.

    Obviously Bush didn’t cut taxes ENOUGH, surely another massive hand-out to the very rich will fix the problem.

  9. Ian Gould
    November 21st, 2007 at 18:16 | #9
  10. Ian Gould
    November 21st, 2007 at 19:49 | #10


    The Vanadium Redux battery technology has been under development for quite some time now. It has the potential to store large amounts of electricity at low cost which could radically change the electricity industry. Besides making intermittent renewable energy more viable it could get rid of the need for expensive inefficient peaking power.

    They’ve now advanced to the point where they’ve got products suited for real-world applications including field applications in Africa – a very demanding environment.

  11. Peter
    November 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 | #11

    Dr. Patel should not be extradited to Australia. He will not get a fair deal in Australia. In Australia murderers like Chris Hurley go scot-free and aboriginal people and other minorities are treated like second class citizens.

    Americans and Indians should not allow him to be extradited to racist Australia, whose justice system is deeply flawed. He should be tried in American courts so that he can get a fair trial.

    Here is an interesting link for those interested in justice and fairness:


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