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Three at one stroke

December 1st, 2009

Turnbull defeated, Hockey discredited, Abbott doomed.

Looking at Turnbull’s impressive stand, and Abbott’s disastrous press conference, I bet there is at least one Lib who would change their vote if the ballot could be brought on again.

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  1. Fran Barlow
    December 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 | #1

    Tony G does his own weird version of the no true scotsman fallacy

    SJ said;
    “Hitler might have been lying when he claimed to be a socialist.”

    Tony G suggested

    Lying would make him a socialist.

    So if he says he’s a socialist but he is lying, the lying alone is a sufficient qualification for socialism.

    This reminds me of a piece from The Life of Brian

    Brian: I’m not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!
    Girl: Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.
    Brian: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!
    Followers: He is! He is the Messiah!

  2. December 3rd, 2009 at 13:17 | #2

    Fran;
    “So if he says he’s a socialist but he is lying, the lying alone is a sufficient qualification for socialism.”

    Considering everybody lies at some point, pathological lying is the qualification need.

    Socialists promise the earth and deliver nothing; Similar to the pathological lie of saying the eTs is going to reduce carbon emissions.

    Freelander;

    Is it your assertion that the ‘25-point plan” was not a socialist agenda and Hitler did rise to power promoting that platform?

    And ypu said;

    “He was transformed by assuming the mantle? That’s original, why don’t you write it up and put it in a book?”

    I do not have to write on it, Lord Acton already has…it goes something like this.. “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”

  3. Ian Gould
    December 4th, 2009 at 00:10 | #3

    Tony G :

    Lying would make him a socialist. Just like the socialists around here are lying about the eTs’s ability to reduce carbon emissions.

    So Tony what are we to make of your repeated claims that the Rudd government had “banned solar cells”?

  4. Freelander
    December 4th, 2009 at 04:36 | #4

    Tony G :Freelander;
    Is it your assertion that the ‘25-point plan” was not a socialist agenda and Hitler did rise to power promoting that platform?
    I do not have to write on it, Lord Acton already has…

    Hitler probably also rose to power brushing his teeth. Whether he rose to power simply because he brushed his teeth is another matter.

    I wasn’t aware that Lord Acton wrote a [non-fiction] novel and original book on Hitler’s rise to power and how Hitler changed once in power. Could you give me a reference to the Acton book?
    Given that Acton died in 1902 it must be a remarkable book. I look forward to reading it.

  5. December 4th, 2009 at 23:13 | #5

    Ian, stop treating me like a dog and rubbing my nose in it, I have already apologised for slightly exaggerating on the issue of Ruddd restricting subsidies for solar panels, something which Rudd restricts.

    Freelander, are you saying that hitler wasn’t “transformed by assuming the mantle?” Now “That’s original,” disagreeing with Actons assertion that “all power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely” says something about you, as Acton’s statement is clearly something that applied to Hitler.

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