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Jones goes to J-school

October 19th, 2012

The past seems to be catching up with Alan Jones, just when his most recent outrage has caused him more trouble than all the others put together. First, he lost an appeal against a finding that he incited racial hatred in the leadup to the Cronulla riots. Then 2GB got caught in another cash-for-comment scandal. Now he’s been told to go back to journalism school, to learn about checking his facts, in relation to his silly claim that ”The percentage of man-made carbon dioxide Australia produces is 1 per cent of .001 per cent of carbon dioxide in the air.” (Similar claims have been made by Andrew Bolt, and by some commenters at this blog.) As Lenore Taylor observes, if 2GB and Jones really want to check their facts, they’ll have a lot of work ahead of them.

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  1. JB Cairns
    October 19th, 2012 at 08:04 | #1

    Jones has an easy out. He just gets Bolt or Davidson as his fact checker.

    Nothing changes. He is still lives in a parallel world.

  2. Jenny
    October 19th, 2012 at 09:02 | #2

    It would be good if the same requirements were applied to all journalists — particularly ones working for News Limited. It could be applied to Andrew Bolt for his TV rant but unfortunately the print media are largely exempt from being required to engage in rigorous journalism. Living in Brisbane means I have a choice of a local Murdoch rag and a national one. I buy neither.

  3. paul walter
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:35 | #3

    So he has to learn fact checking? Not knowing what a fact is, much less the truth, it may take some time?

  4. quokka
    October 19th, 2012 at 11:37 | #4

    I suppose that we need to see how this plays out, but it surely would be a great precedent to set.

    Jones must be feeling humiliated. Good, he could do with a dose of humility.

  5. Ron E Joggles
    October 19th, 2012 at 12:09 | #5

    JQ – “Now he’s been told to go back to journalism school,”: I’m sorry to nitpick, but I thought that Mr Jones had never attended a journalism school.

    quokka – He won’t be feeling humiliated, just hard done by. Jones is too far from reality for humility to be remotely possible.

  6. David Irving (no relation)
    October 19th, 2012 at 12:28 | #6

    This is loltastic: Jones will be spluttering with rage after about the first 15 seconds of his training.

  7. Troy Prideaux
    October 19th, 2012 at 12:38 | #7

    Ron E Joggles :
    JQ – “Now he’s been told to go back to journalism school,”: I’m sorry to nitpick, but I thought that Mr Jones had never attended a journalism school.
    quokka – He won’t be feeling humiliated, just hard done by. Jones is too far from reality for humility to be remotely possible.

    Yes, I was under the impression he wasn’t a “journalist”, but I suppose for all intents and purposes, it’s a trivial difference.
    Whilst on trivialities, I think he has felt humility at least once before- in 2004 he was given the honour to press the starter’s button for the main group 1 vehicle event for the opening of the Western Sydney International Dragway. Apparently he literally shit himself when they launched off the starting line.

  8. Tom
    October 19th, 2012 at 13:20 | #8

    Good that Jones is ordered to learn about checking his facts, except that it won’t make a difference if the standard of ‘facts’ is whats being presented by the Daily Telegraph and The Australian.

  9. Fran Barlow
    October 19th, 2012 at 13:30 | #9

    @paul walter

    Imagine when he moves on to lesson 2 — Fact salience for Dummies: How do you know if it is relevant? What is data bias and how does it occur?.

    There could then follow lesson 3: Using Salient Facts in Models to draw inferences: What models can and can’t tell us

    It could be a very long time before Jones recovers from an assault on his identity like that.

  10. may
    October 19th, 2012 at 14:02 | #10

    if you can’t take it,don’t dish it out?

  11. paul walter
    October 19th, 2012 at 14:17 | #11

    Look Fran, the Earth is flat. You can’t fool him, he’s standing on it. Ifit was round he would be falling over. You won’t get him with models either.
    They are not supposed to tell us any thing. They just stand there and smile, while you are advertising a product.

  12. Frank
    October 19th, 2012 at 17:35 | #12

    And let’s not forget all that time ago – explanations and protests not believed:

    http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_91098

    “Mr Jones submitted:
    that he did not appreciate that his contracts contained provisions relating to on-air conduct;
    that his contracts had not affected the content of his programs;

    The panel has not accepted the submissions of Mr Laws or Mr Jones”

  13. Jim Rose
    October 20th, 2012 at 09:28 | #13

    Who gains from an incorrigible right-wing populist having a fact checker? Fact checking enhances his credibility and he will stop shooting himself in the foot.

    Worst of all, people will have to engage with Jones’ rguments rather than use his sloppiness with facts to deflect debates about hot topics.

  14. October 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 | #14

    Jim, if he has to check his facts, he won’t have any arguments to debate. It’s win-win!

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