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		<title>By: SeanG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeanG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is that a transferrable skill is something like being a doctor in real life before being a pollie. Not like managerial-speech like some sort of MBA professor on steroids and cocaine at the same time. Most pollies talk like that because it sounds good rather than being honest.

I can bring up a lot of Rudd-speak.

One of the best lines I heard was from a British politician Lord Peter Mandelson and watch how he handle the question about his title: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdQb6seAdJM

BTW, his title is Baron Mandelson, of Foy in the County of Herefordshire and of Hartlepool in the County of Durham, First Secretary of State, Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills, President of the Board of Trade and Lord President of the Council.

But hear his response about his title because it is a title with a purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is that a transferrable skill is something like being a doctor in real life before being a pollie. Not like managerial-speech like some sort of MBA professor on steroids and cocaine at the same time. Most pollies talk like that because it sounds good rather than being honest.</p>
<p>I can bring up a lot of Rudd-speak.</p>
<p>One of the best lines I heard was from a British politician Lord Peter Mandelson and watch how he handle the question about his title: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdQb6seAdJM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdQb6seAdJM</a></p>
<p>BTW, his title is Baron Mandelson, of Foy in the County of Herefordshire and of Hartlepool in the County of Durham, First Secretary of State, Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills, President of the Board of Trade and Lord President of the Council.</p>
<p>But hear his response about his title because it is a title with a purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247462&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@SeanG  &lt;/a&gt; 
Sean - every few years we get another pat expression - now a few years ago it was &quot;hit the ground running&quot;, and of course &quot;transferrable skills&quot; 

and then there is the fabulous overuse of the word &quot;platforms&quot; to launch everything from a &quot;strategic vision&quot; to a &quot;moon landing&quot; and then there was &quot;global combined with strategic&quot; ie the worst I ever heard was &quot;we are a regional global university with a strategic vision&quot;. I wont dob in the uni by telling you who it was.

How about &quot;our global platform matrix of objectives helps us to achieve a strategically aligned visonary approach to our clients&quot;....

blather, blather blather.... 

I just detest these intangible meaningless unpackable for all occasions &quot;takeaway&quot; expressions. 

Can any body think of any more?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-247462" rel="nofollow">@SeanG  </a><br />
Sean &#8211; every few years we get another pat expression &#8211; now a few years ago it was &#8220;hit the ground running&#8221;, and of course &#8220;transferrable skills&#8221; </p>
<p>and then there is the fabulous overuse of the word &#8220;platforms&#8221; to launch everything from a &#8220;strategic vision&#8221; to a &#8220;moon landing&#8221; and then there was &#8220;global combined with strategic&#8221; ie the worst I ever heard was &#8220;we are a regional global university with a strategic vision&#8221;. I wont dob in the uni by telling you who it was.</p>
<p>How about &#8220;our global platform matrix of objectives helps us to achieve a strategically aligned visonary approach to our clients&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>blather, blather blather&#8230;. </p>
<p>I just detest these intangible meaningless unpackable for all occasions &#8220;takeaway&#8221; expressions. </p>
<p>Can any body think of any more?.</p>
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		<title>By: SeanG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeanG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They aren&#039;t worth enough to me to lick my shoe after I walked through a cow paddock.

When I mean &quot;transferrable skills&quot; I mean that they have enough life experience that they can go back into a previous profession. A professional politician can&#039;t do much but a person who has had some real life experience means that they will not feel needed to have to win because they know they couldn&#039;t get a job elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They aren&#8217;t worth enough to me to lick my shoe after I walked through a cow paddock.</p>
<p>When I mean &#8220;transferrable skills&#8221; I mean that they have enough life experience that they can go back into a previous profession. A professional politician can&#8217;t do much but a person who has had some real life experience means that they will not feel needed to have to win because they know they couldn&#8217;t get a job elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247437&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@SeanG  &lt;/a&gt; 
Sean -what Id like to do is see where their salaries were twenty, thirty, forty and fifty years ago on average. I would be surprised if they fell into the top income earners bracket and as a matter of principle, so that they dont align their objectives with this class, they shouldnt earn so much. Backbenchers dont and are likely fine (yet when you add their outrageously generous superannuation benefits they would as well). Its just an insult to the overwhelming majority of Australians. To even think that Rees or Bligh with their continued privatisation firesales and their utterly contemptuous neglect of infrastructure needs is worth that is absurd.

 I didnt hear you say they were worth it did I Sean?

 Forget the pat hackneyed jargon like &quot;transferrable skills&quot; Sean. It makes you sound like a twenty something recruitment agent. They cant judge a candidate properly so they ask people to list their &quot;transferrable skills&quot; and basically it means little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-247437" rel="nofollow">@SeanG  </a><br />
Sean -what Id like to do is see where their salaries were twenty, thirty, forty and fifty years ago on average. I would be surprised if they fell into the top income earners bracket and as a matter of principle, so that they dont align their objectives with this class, they shouldnt earn so much. Backbenchers dont and are likely fine (yet when you add their outrageously generous superannuation benefits they would as well). Its just an insult to the overwhelming majority of Australians. To even think that Rees or Bligh with their continued privatisation firesales and their utterly contemptuous neglect of infrastructure needs is worth that is absurd.</p>
<p> I didnt hear you say they were worth it did I Sean?</p>
<p> Forget the pat hackneyed jargon like &#8220;transferrable skills&#8221; Sean. It makes you sound like a twenty something recruitment agent. They cant judge a candidate properly so they ask people to list their &#8220;transferrable skills&#8221; and basically it means little.</p>
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		<title>By: daggett</title>
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		<dc:creator>daggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247426&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barry&lt;/a&gt;.  Glad to know I have struck a chord with you.

Interesting that some here are aware of how French Unionists have stopped the privatation of their postal system.  As it happens, there is an article about that (not wrtitten by me) on my blog site.  It is &lt;a href=&quot;http://candobetter.org/node/1585&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;French organise national resistance to Privatisation of Post Office&quot;&lt;/a&gt; of 5 Oct 09.  It was written by Sheila Newman, based on a French Language news story she watched on the Internet.

Had anyone read that appalling article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26263449-27197,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; Queensland asset sell off the only choice&quot;&lt;/a&gt; in the &lt;em&gt;Courier Mail&lt;/em&gt; of Monday 26 October by Anna Bligh in defence of the fire sale?  She wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I didn&#039;t take on the premiership to squib on the tough choices. I&#039;m prepared to stare down the critics ...  in order to do what&#039;s right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I responded on an anti-privatisation mailing list:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&#039;Staring down&#039; also happens to be a favourite catch-phrase of  News Limited journalists.  I know it has already been used at least once by a Courier Mail journalist to depict the way she got the Labor Party state conference to rubber stamp her fire sale plans.

It has also been used on at least one occasion by Imre Saluzinsky, the chief pro-electricity-privatisation propagandist for the Australian newspaper. Please see &lt;a href=&quot;http://candobetter.org/node/765&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Media contempt for facts in NSW electricity privatisation debate&quot;&lt;/a&gt; of 18 Sep 08. (Unfortunately, at the time I wrote the article, I could not find the article in which Saluzinsky lauded Iemma and Costa for having &#039;stared down&#039; the Labor Party following the state Labor Party&#039;s roughly 7 to 1 repudiation of privatisation at the state conference of May 08.)

I somehow doubt if 84%+ of Queenslanders, opposed to privatisation, would have taken too kindly to them having been &quot;stared down&quot; by Bligh over her privatisation plans during the March elections.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks <a href="#comment-247426" rel="nofollow">Barry</a>.  Glad to know I have struck a chord with you.</p>
<p>Interesting that some here are aware of how French Unionists have stopped the privatation of their postal system.  As it happens, there is an article about that (not wrtitten by me) on my blog site.  It is <a href="http://candobetter.org/node/1585" rel="nofollow">&#8220;French organise national resistance to Privatisation of Post Office&#8221;</a> of 5 Oct 09.  It was written by Sheila Newman, based on a French Language news story she watched on the Internet.</p>
<p>Had anyone read that appalling article <a href="http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26263449-27197,00.html" rel="nofollow">&#8221; Queensland asset sell off the only choice&#8221;</a> in the <em>Courier Mail</em> of Monday 26 October by Anna Bligh in defence of the fire sale?  She wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I didn&#8217;t take on the premiership to squib on the tough choices. I&#8217;m prepared to stare down the critics &#8230;  in order to do what&#8217;s right.</p></blockquote>
<p>As I responded on an anti-privatisation mailing list:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8216;Staring down&#8217; also happens to be a favourite catch-phrase of  News Limited journalists.  I know it has already been used at least once by a Courier Mail journalist to depict the way she got the Labor Party state conference to rubber stamp her fire sale plans.</p>
<p>It has also been used on at least one occasion by Imre Saluzinsky, the chief pro-electricity-privatisation propagandist for the Australian newspaper. Please see <a href="http://candobetter.org/node/765" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Media contempt for facts in NSW electricity privatisation debate&#8221;</a> of 18 Sep 08. (Unfortunately, at the time I wrote the article, I could not find the article in which Saluzinsky lauded Iemma and Costa for having &#8216;stared down&#8217; the Labor Party following the state Labor Party&#8217;s roughly 7 to 1 repudiation of privatisation at the state conference of May 08.)</p>
<p>I somehow doubt if 84%+ of Queenslanders, opposed to privatisation, would have taken too kindly to them having been &#8220;stared down&#8221; by Bligh over her privatisation plans during the March elections.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: SeanG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeanG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247401&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Alice  &lt;/a&gt; 

Politicians are from a political class. That is their profession and they get paid very well for it. What is happening is that because they have no transferrable skill set, they are reliant on re-elections in order to keep them employed. That means that they are more reliant on donors and using their arbitrary decision-making power which breeds corruption.

Ask yourself this question - what transferrable skill does Rees have?

Compare the pollies today to those of twenty years ago and see the quality fade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-247401" rel="nofollow">@Alice  </a> </p>
<p>Politicians are from a political class. That is their profession and they get paid very well for it. What is happening is that because they have no transferrable skill set, they are reliant on re-elections in order to keep them employed. That means that they are more reliant on donors and using their arbitrary decision-making power which breeds corruption.</p>
<p>Ask yourself this question &#8211; what transferrable skill does Rees have?</p>
<p>Compare the pollies today to those of twenty years ago and see the quality fade.</p>
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		<title>By: SeanG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeanG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The French unionists would strike if anyone touched their extraordinary benefits. They&#039;d strike over anything. It is quite amazing to see the number of secondary strikes that can hit France.

It is not a model I would expect Aussie unions to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The French unionists would strike if anyone touched their extraordinary benefits. They&#8217;d strike over anything. It is quite amazing to see the number of secondary strikes that can hit France.</p>
<p>It is not a model I would expect Aussie unions to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael of Summer Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael of Summer Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, if the French unionists can stop their government from privatising the French Postal Service then there is still hope that Australian unionists could deny the Bligh government the opportunity from privatising Qld public assets. Remember it is not over till the fat lady sings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, if the French unionists can stop their government from privatising the French Postal Service then there is still hope that Australian unionists could deny the Bligh government the opportunity from privatising Qld public assets. Remember it is not over till the fat lady sings.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247424&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@barry  &lt;/a&gt; 
We ARE being DUDDED Barry BIGTIME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-247424" rel="nofollow">@barry  </a><br />
We ARE being DUDDED Barry BIGTIME.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry - when labor state politicians salaries are over 200 and 300K they dont give a damn about the rest of us - only what deals they can do with private sector top income earners like themelves. Its not about governance any more - its about kicking their lifetime incomes along.

Im disgusted that that  Nathan Reesn (Nathan Rees Loser - &quot;NRL&quot; thinks for one minute he or  a representative in his PATHETIC government is worth 351K or even that Carmel Tebbut and others are worth over 220K (she who has never been known to do a decent thing ever while she was education minister except display a frozen half smile...).

Im really angry - how dare they pass themselves off as politicians? That we have sunk this low without noticing reflects on all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry &#8211; when labor state politicians salaries are over 200 and 300K they dont give a damn about the rest of us &#8211; only what deals they can do with private sector top income earners like themelves. Its not about governance any more &#8211; its about kicking their lifetime incomes along.</p>
<p>Im disgusted that that  Nathan Reesn (Nathan Rees Loser &#8211; &#8220;NRL&#8221; thinks for one minute he or  a representative in his PATHETIC government is worth 351K or even that Carmel Tebbut and others are worth over 220K (she who has never been known to do a decent thing ever while she was education minister except display a frozen half smile&#8230;).</p>
<p>Im really angry &#8211; how dare they pass themselves off as politicians? That we have sunk this low without noticing reflects on all of us.</p>
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