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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2010/01/19/column-and-bookplug/comment-page-1/#comment-253931</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-253744&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Graeme Bird  &lt;/a&gt; 
On that I agree Graeme Bird. The bailout should never have happened and the money should have been directed to a main street bailout. Stuff the banks. Now they know they are immune unethical business continues as normal or worse than before.

The financial services sector is a grotesque parody of what the financial aervices sector should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-253744" rel="nofollow">@Graeme Bird  </a><br />
On that I agree Graeme Bird. The bailout should never have happened and the money should have been directed to a main street bailout. Stuff the banks. Now they know they are immune unethical business continues as normal or worse than before.</p>
<p>The financial services sector is a grotesque parody of what the financial aervices sector should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“This raises the question, is it financial engineering or language engineering?”

Its language engineering.  We are talking about &quot;scames, schemes, and ripoffs...&quot; as Celente explains it.  

Fractional reserve itself doesn&#039;t seem like a scam because of a thousand years of desensitization to it. But a credit default swap? Thats a scam  Its all part of a suite of numbers rackets, like what you&#039;d expect from Tony Soprano.

 If the Americans had taken a sensible, neutral approach to the bailout, then all these various scams would have been wiped out comprehensively.  They kick things down the road for so long, but sometimes the market really does speak. And the market did speak and what it said was that all these high-bonus operators were really just hyped-up bums and con-artists. The derivates industry would have been almost completely wiped. 

Most banks under sensible bailout conditions (massive debt retirement through new cash indjection, not regarding any institution in particular) would have been forced to sell off branches and go into retrenchment in order to get hold of the massive amounts of new cash to make good on their commitments. But the bigshots would have all gone under and their creditors would have them in court. 

Now they are just filling up their pockets with cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“This raises the question, is it financial engineering or language engineering?”</p>
<p>Its language engineering.  We are talking about &#8220;scames, schemes, and ripoffs&#8230;&#8221; as Celente explains it.  </p>
<p>Fractional reserve itself doesn&#8217;t seem like a scam because of a thousand years of desensitization to it. But a credit default swap? Thats a scam  Its all part of a suite of numbers rackets, like what you&#8217;d expect from Tony Soprano.</p>
<p> If the Americans had taken a sensible, neutral approach to the bailout, then all these various scams would have been wiped out comprehensively.  They kick things down the road for so long, but sometimes the market really does speak. And the market did speak and what it said was that all these high-bonus operators were really just hyped-up bums and con-artists. The derivates industry would have been almost completely wiped. </p>
<p>Most banks under sensible bailout conditions (massive debt retirement through new cash indjection, not regarding any institution in particular) would have been forced to sell off branches and go into retrenchment in order to get hold of the massive amounts of new cash to make good on their commitments. But the bigshots would have all gone under and their creditors would have them in court. </p>
<p>Now they are just filling up their pockets with cash.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article.

Pity that it looks like there will be a renewed push for more PPPs from both the State and Federal government&#039;s.  With such a significant private sector market pushing the government down the path of PPPs for thier own benefit, the government no longer has either the capability nor the appetite to resist their advances.  So, we the taxpayer, will get to pay more for services.

In Queensland, we might get lucky.  If the new PPP projects are delayed then the government might get to witness the pain from the failure of the Airport Link project.  I suspect that Clem 7 will be a little down on patronage forecasts but by opening early they have secured themseleves a tidy buffer.  In addition the Clem 7 forecasts were reasonably sensible.  Airport Link on the other hand had forecasts that were almost double normally accpeted capacity maximums.  Combined with the already multiple variations that have been approved suggests that they wont have the same sort of buffer.

While still a couple of years away, when it fails, maybe the government will have a good hard look at itself.  Or then again it might just spin it&#039;s way through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.</p>
<p>Pity that it looks like there will be a renewed push for more PPPs from both the State and Federal government&#8217;s.  With such a significant private sector market pushing the government down the path of PPPs for thier own benefit, the government no longer has either the capability nor the appetite to resist their advances.  So, we the taxpayer, will get to pay more for services.</p>
<p>In Queensland, we might get lucky.  If the new PPP projects are delayed then the government might get to witness the pain from the failure of the Airport Link project.  I suspect that Clem 7 will be a little down on patronage forecasts but by opening early they have secured themseleves a tidy buffer.  In addition the Clem 7 forecasts were reasonably sensible.  Airport Link on the other hand had forecasts that were almost double normally accpeted capacity maximums.  Combined with the already multiple variations that have been approved suggests that they wont have the same sort of buffer.</p>
<p>While still a couple of years away, when it fails, maybe the government will have a good hard look at itself.  Or then again it might just spin it&#8217;s way through.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Milton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-253731&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Alice &lt;/a&gt;
Apologies. I was listening to a Geraldine Doogue podcast as I was writing.</description>
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Apologies. I was listening to a Geraldine Doogue podcast as I was writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Freelander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-253719&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ernestine Gross &lt;/a&gt; 

The financial management I was referring to is that undertaken in the big end of town where they get to play the best game of all called &quot;other people&#039;s money&quot;. Amazing what you can do when it is &quot;other people&#039;s money&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-253719" rel="nofollow">@Ernestine Gross </a> </p>
<p>The financial management I was referring to is that undertaken in the big end of town where they get to play the best game of all called &#8220;other people&#8217;s money&#8221;. Amazing what you can do when it is &#8220;other people&#8217;s money&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-253730&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Uncle Milton  &lt;/a&gt; 
Geraldine?? I think you mean Ernestine.</description>
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Geraldine?? I think you mean Ernestine.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Milton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geraldine, it&#039;s just standard welfare economics. For example, in evaluating whether a change in international trading arrangements is good or bad, we ask &quot;what&#039;s in it for us?&quot; not &quot;what&#039;s in it for us and them combined?&quot;.

And it&#039;s not a rip off, at least not in competitive markets. If the investment had worked out, the foreigners would have been better off, but their welfare gain would not have counted in our welfare. But as it turned out, they lost. That is their problem, not ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geraldine, it&#8217;s just standard welfare economics. For example, in evaluating whether a change in international trading arrangements is good or bad, we ask &#8220;what&#8217;s in it for us?&#8221; not &#8220;what&#8217;s in it for us and them combined?&#8221;.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not a rip off, at least not in competitive markets. If the investment had worked out, the foreigners would have been better off, but their welfare gain would not have counted in our welfare. But as it turned out, they lost. That is their problem, not ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-253725&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ernestine Gross  &lt;/a&gt; 
Couldnt agree more Ernestine...lack of technical and managerial know-how on the part of governments also leads to inneffective regulation. And as loss of public expertise has increased it has become easier for governments with less know how to outsource the regulatory oversight as well doesnt it? 

Hence the mess we are in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-253725" rel="nofollow">@Ernestine Gross  </a><br />
Couldnt agree more Ernestine&#8230;lack of technical and managerial know-how on the part of governments also leads to inneffective regulation. And as loss of public expertise has increased it has become easier for governments with less know how to outsource the regulatory oversight as well doesnt it? </p>
<p>Hence the mess we are in?</p>
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		<title>By: Ernestine Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernestine Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A commenter by the name of Crocodile once wrote that the threads tend to be very long when I post. So I opt out now with the remark that I liked JQ&#039;s article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commenter by the name of Crocodile once wrote that the threads tend to be very long when I post. So I opt out now with the remark that I liked JQ&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernestine Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernestine Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-253721&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Uncle Milton  &lt;/a&gt; 

Now now, Uncle Milton - are you suggesting that the idea of a &#039;global economy&#039; is for various nationalities to ripp each other off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-253721" rel="nofollow">@Uncle Milton  </a> </p>
<p>Now now, Uncle Milton &#8211; are you suggesting that the idea of a &#8216;global economy&#8217; is for various nationalities to ripp each other off?</p>
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