Steven Den Beste at USS Clueless includes a detailed reply to my post in his latest, which also includes some commentary on the US election outcomes. First, let me apologize for mis-spelling and miscapitalizing Steven’s name – this happens to me all the time, and I hate finding out I’ve done it to someone else.
Second, Den Beste argues that I’ve misstated his position, (and in the process overstated the differences between us.) We are certainly in agreement on the crucial proposition that unfettered weapons inspections are needed, and that if Saddam obstructs them, his regime should be overthrown. I had formed the view that Den Beste regarded an invasion decision from which the UN was excluded as crucial, not only in this case but to provide a basis for unilateral US action in future cases where there is no pre-existing set of UN resolutions that could form a legal basis for intervention. If Den Beste doesn’t see it this way so much the better.
The points of disagreement between us, as I see it, are
(i) a factual judgement about Saddam’s likely response. Den Beste argues here that Saddam can’t give up his weapons for fear of a coup. But he doesn’t make this argument in detail, and I don’t buy it. Saddam let the inspectors find and destroy his nuclear weapons program in the early 1990s, and he’s still there. I think a more likely cause of noncompliance is a recurrence of the hubris that led to the wars with Iran and Kuwait.
(ii) a judgement about the US & UN response to noncompliance. As Den Beste sees it the US will probably invade without waiting for the UNSC and, if a report of noncompliance does go the UNSC, the French or Russians will veto any action. I don’t think this makes sense. Even if whole exercise was meant ‘to prove that the UN is useless and biased against the US, thus not to be trusted’ this end would not be served by Den Beste’s proposed course of action. The only way to prove this is to go back to the UN and get a veto. Den Beste takes the view that French and Russian resistance is motivated by concerns over oil leases etc. This is probably true of the Russians, but they can be bought off and would probably not cast a lone veto anyway. I think its pretty clear by now that the main French objective is to stand as a counterweight to US unilateralism. This end is served by supporting a second resolution (what they’ve been demanding all along after all), not by vetoing it and then seeing the US act anyway.
(iiI) The third point of disagreement relates to the consequences of Iraqi compliance. As I read him, Den Beste thinks that the UN process has kept alive the idea that the US could announce an invasion on the basis of past Iraqi violations even if the inspectors were in place and reporting satisfactory progress. I disagree. There’s no way any of the allies who might have reluctantly come on board after UNSC rejection of the US resolution (UK, Australia, Turkey, Qatar, Kuwait), or if the US had never gone to the UN at all, would do so if Iraq complies with a US-sponsored resolution. Hence, an invasion under these circumstances would be prohibitively costly in both military and geopolitical terms. If this was the intention, Bush would have been far better off never approaching the UN.