20 thoughts on “Monday message board”

1. Paul Krugman has an interesting column in the New York Times on the enduring radicalism, not Burkean conservatism, at the heart of the movement conservatism, and a counter to the argument that Geoge W. Bush represents some kind of ideological outlier.

   Written in response to a David Brooks column on what ails movement conservatism, it should serve as a warning to the Liberal Party should it (further) embrace its inner Family First/Institute for Public Affairs/H.R. Nichols Society persona.

   Actually, the best part of the column is seeing a Yale economist riffing off “Once in a Lifetime” by Talking Heads, in the New York Times:

   Now, as they survey the wreckage of their cause, conservatives may ask themselves: “Well, how did we get here?� They may tell themselves: “This is not my beautiful Right.� They may ask themselves: “My God, what have we done?�

2. Re capital punishment. I find ridiculous the mantra that if you oppose capital punishment you must run around the world trying to stop every instance of it.

   It is also ugly to lecture Asians about it but not Americans. Dubya Bush killed over a hundred people while governor of Texas. We said nothing. If we’re going to civilise our neighbours, why not the yanks?

   When an Australian is going to be executed that is different: we need to try like buggery to stop it. (Likewise, we offer consular services to Australians overseas, but not to others.)

   Having said that, McLelland’s idea isn’t bad, but it should extend to way out east across the Pacific to the USA. Otherwise it’s rubbish.

3. You don’t understand Paulkelly. If I’m murdered by a terrorist, naturally he should hang, but if it’s a common or garden serial killer, then obviously he should only get life with parole for good behaviour. Wait a minute! That could be construed as racist and I couldn’t live with that. What the hell, hang them all!

4. Hey John Q,

   As a water resources person you must be feeling a little stressed that the object of your interest is becoming a memory, so I thought that this resource might put some sense of control back in the system.

   http://teachers.net/lessons/posts/2050.html

5. US-watchers might be interested in a recent check on how progressive the US tax system is. Not very:

   bottom 20% pay 18% of their income in taxes
   second 20% pay 14% of their income in taxes
   third 20% pay 16% of their income in taxes
   fourth 20% pay 17% of their income in taxes
   top 20% pay 19% of their income in taxes.

   These numbers are supposed to include Federal income tax, excise taxes, state income taxes, sales taxes and property taxes, so it looks pretty comprehensive.

6. gordon,
   Interesting. Makes replacing the entire tax system with a flat tax look like a very attractive option. Make it flat with a high threshold and it is instantly more “progressive”. Shall we say 30K threshold and 30% after that?

7. Oops! I forgot to acknowledge a post at Angry Bear as my source for the tax comment. Sorry.

8. International students must be careful in choosing Australia as a study destination. Hate crimes are on the rise in Australia. Recently a TAFE student was murdered in Melbourne.

   http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22564133-5005961,00.html

   Also Australia’s immigration minister Kevin Andrews is inciting hatred against immigrants from Asia, Middle East and Africa. Canada,US,UK, New Zealand and Ireland may be a good alternative for International students, as governments in these countries do not incite hate crimes. For Asian(and other) students Japan, South Korea and Singapore could be an alternative study option as these countries are increasing looking for International students.

   http://www.osaka-u.ac.jp/eng/admissions/message01.html

9. You forgot to mention the whole story Peter
   http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22567477-5005961,00.html
   and they might be trying their best to fit in and be just like Australians
   http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22535206-2682,00.html

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18. ”
    Interesting. Makes replacing the entire tax system with a flat tax look like a very attractive option. Make it flat with a high threshold and it is instantly more “progressiveâ€?. Shall we say 30K threshold and 30% after that?”

    Andrew, you’re proposing replacing ALL current taxes and not just the Federal income tax right? Because otherwise you’d be making the system vastly LESS progressive since most of those other taxes are regressive.

    Gordon: The list of taxes in question seems to omit the capital gains and estate taxes and taxation of corporate dividends.

    Factor those in and the system is probably slightly progressive.

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