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April 21st, 2008

It’s time once again for the Monday Message Board. Please post your thoughts on any topic. Civilised discussion and no coarse language, please.

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  1. TerjeP (say tay-a)
    April 21st, 2008 at 07:07 | #1

    JQ – what where you lot smoking in Canberra over the weekend?

  2. Lord Sir Alexander “Dolly” Downer
    April 21st, 2008 at 08:39 | #2

    Terje still upset at lack of invite.

  3. Pepper
    April 21st, 2008 at 10:47 | #3

    Never mind 2020. Here is something important.

    The Canberra Times the other day told us My Fair Lady is coming in August:

    “In town to promote the show was director Stuart Maunder, legend of … … He said that My Fair Lady… …was one of the few occasions when an adaption was better than the original, in this case George Bernard Shaw’s 1913 play Pygmalion. ‘My Fair Lady transformed Pygmalion and gave it the ending it should have; when Higgins admits he has learnt something from this girl. It’s a great moment in theatre’.â€?

    Oh dear. It is one of theatre’s most unedifying moments.

    Higgins already says in the final scene of Pygmalion: “I have learnt something from your idiotic notions: I confess that humbly and gratefully.” Heaven knows what alleged legend Maunder thinks Higgins additionally learns in MFL.

    In MFL Eliza goes back to being Higgins’s door mat. In Pygmalion she marries Freddy who will be her door mat while she supports them both with a flower shop. Shaw’s fundamental lesson – namely that the proles, if raised up, will become independent, progressive, supportive citizens, not part of the parasite upper class – has failed to make its mark on Maunder’s mundane mind.

    Sadly, he is far from the first to miss the point of the play. Right from the beginning people wanted to change Shaw’s ending – because Freddy is a drip. People want the attractive girl to go to the clever professor. Her brains and his bullying count for nothing.

    GBS was scathing: “…lazy dependence on the ready-makes and reach-me-downs of the ragshop in which Romance keeps its stock of ‘happy endings’ to misfit all stories.� Why, he asks, would Eliza prefer to pick up Higgins’s slippers when Freddy will pick up hers?

    The whole episode is an embarrassment to the theatre and here is a director endorsing it.

    GBS’s lengthy essay – in effect the sequel to the play – is at
    http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/world/readfile?fk_files=6390&pageno=86 .

  4. April 21st, 2008 at 11:04 | #4

    The 2020 was an invitation from this government for you and me to participate in the future of the nation, beyond the vote, beyond the ballot box. This is true democracy in the deepest sense of the word

  5. April 21st, 2008 at 11:39 | #5

    Dear friends;

    A significantly expanded and updated version of a paper of mine has been published on Znet and Leftwrites. (nb: it has doubled in size since its previous incarnation)

    Issues covered range from tax, health, education, welfare, aged care, the housing crisis, and including an expanded social wage…

    I tried posting the paper on the ‘GetUp’ participatory forum (meant to coincide with the 2020 summit) in the Economics section…

    For reasons unknown to me, the paper was never published.

    I hope, though, to spur some discussion regardless.

    Znet and Leftwrites allow for reader comments – and your input would be appreciated.

    I welcome you all to read and comment on the paper. The article can be found at the URLs below:

    Znet:

    http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/17191

    Leftwrites:

    http://www.leftwrites.net/2008/04/20/australia-some-ideas-for-change-comment-here-or-at-znet/#more-1226

    Again – feel free to comment here, at Leftwrites or at Znet.

    And feel free to reproduce the article elsewhere -and please let the author know if you do:

    [email protected]

    Finally, if you consider yourself as being broadly part of the Left, you are welcome to join the ‘Australian Broad Left Network’ – an egroup for news and debate on the broad Australian Left:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/broadleft/

    Take care, and all the best.

    sincerely,

    Tristan Ewins

  6. Pepper
    April 21st, 2008 at 11:39 | #6

    Nonsense. True democracy is when the people rule, not talk!

  7. TerjeP
    April 21st, 2008 at 17:34 | #7

    Nonsense. Democracy is an attempt at keeping governments focused on the public good rather than narrow sectional interests. Where it fails to do that (as it often does) then it should be modified. Where it leads to leadership that misunderstands what the public good entails then it should be used to correct them or replace them.

  8. Pepper
    April 21st, 2008 at 20:27 | #8

    Marvellous how people want to appropriate the word democracy to suit their normative agenda. Rule by the people is what it means. Nothing “should” about it. And it’s rule, not leadership.

  9. Highlander
    April 22nd, 2008 at 23:09 | #9

    Not sure if anyone else has seen this, but the three major presidential candidates appeared on WWE’s Monday Night Raw this week:

    http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2008/april15-21/6913858?zone=_index

    For those not in the know, “Hill-Rod” is a reference to Roddy “Hot Rod” Piper, Obama’s line is adapted from Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson’s catchphrase and “Mcainiacs” is derived from “Hulkamaniacs”, the followers of Hulk Hogan.

    It seems that it’s becoming chic to be able to reference pro wrestling even at the higher echelons these days, between this and Ric Flair being mentioned on the floor of Congress last week.

  10. Ian Gould
    April 23rd, 2008 at 03:23 | #10

    It isn’t available online sadly but the letters section of the latest New Scientist has a letter claiming that methane and carbon dioxide released from coal beds during open-cut coal mining has greater global warming impact than the carbon dioxide released when the coal is burnt.

    If that claim is correct, it means carbon sequestration for coal-fired power plants, which I’ve previously advocated, probably can’t solve the problem of GHG emissions from coal use.

    Of course, underground coal mines can capture and burn the methane released during mining.

    On the other hand there’s also the issue of carbon dioxide emissions from the actual mining and from transporting the coal.

  11. April 23rd, 2008 at 18:27 | #11

    This may be of interest to collectors of left groups: http://eustonmanifesto.org/ — seems to a pro-Israel British social democratic group. I’m not endorsing them.

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