Gimme Shelter

I’m spinning another content-free post out of the Monday Message Board, which is a long way down the page. Please comment asylum seekers, bail, the possible value of an ID card in the comment thread for this post. As before, civilised discussion and no coarse language please. Otherwise, it’s open slather.
Update Another great, if anarchic success. There’s a lengthy and thoughtful discussion of the options for social democracy and the Labor Party, the usual quota of beard-related sniping. The closest we got to asylum seekers was some early discussion of demonstrations, and their frequently counter-productive impact. Read it all, and throw your own thoughts into the mix!