9 thoughts on “Abhorrence”

1. There was little information to be gained from this so this was merely done for sadistic purposes.

   Just think what will hasppened the next time a US soldier is captured particularly a female one!

   Just which nation is going to go into Iraq now and ask to be killed?

2. I am still waiting for our government to tell us how much it knew before these images were released. I hear some reports that they knew at least 3 months ago; I would also like to know what’s happened(ing) to our two guantanamo inmates, btw, why aren’t considered POW’s again?

   Allegedly Hicks was AlQaeda trained, but fought for the Taliban (and therefore Afghanistan) so why not?

   Unfortunately this appears not to be the catalyst that will see the Bush administration out of office, Kerry just doesn’t seem to cut the mustard, to easy for the Republican election machine to dig up dirt on him and his family.

   To quote Bill Hicks: “I think I might vote for the puppet on the left, well I think the puppet on the right suits my wants and needs; hey! who’s that guy in the middle!?”

3. It’s going to be interesting to see how Australia’s pro-war commentariat reacts to the Iraq revelations. The Melbourne Sun Hearld’s Andrew Bolt has already rushed to the front of the pack in setting the standard for minimisation and justification:

   “Let’s remind ourselves: The coalition didn’t invade Iraq on the promise that its soldiers would kill the enemy one day, and be Jesus the next.

   Its promise to Iraq was more real — to replace its tyranny with a democracy that is the best protection of freedom and virtue.”

   So there you go. Were giving you democracy (we hope) but don’t expect us to be Jesus. If one believes the end justifies the means, if one thinks we should gloss over some evils in the name of preventing other one’s – well, one could at least claim not to be a hypocrite. But to rub salt into the wound by declaring ‘don’t expect us to be Jesus’ – to set such a low tone of cavalier dismissal – is sickening. It makes it impossible for us to take seriously Bolt’s earlier pro forma claim to find the abuse disusting.

   Mr Bolt would be a good substitute for Donald Rumsfeld

   Andrew Gleeson

4. you forgot: Forbid cameras inside prisons. I expect that is the lesson learned by our leaders. (sic)

   Jungle jim

5. Who believes a word Bolt writes

6. I must confess that I chickened out of the slide tour, but I heard Philip Zimbardo of Stanford University on RN today describe an experiment he conducted over 30 years ago. He took 24 sane, healthy, ordinary male college students and set them up as prisoners and wardens in a two-week experiment. The experiment was called off on the sixth day because the students playing the wardens were treating the prisoners in a degrading manner similar to some of the behaviours described in Iraq.

   Zinbardo said thay should lock Bush up if they were looking for the real culprit and work their way down the command chain from there.

7. In many ways it seems to be a direct result of the US’s flagrant disregard for the UN process. I heard it described as a complete breakdown of command and conduct and one imagines that there are some fairly horrified generals wondering WTF went wrong. But the result, in hindsight seems to be an inevitable consequence of BushCo’s unilateralism and avowed disregard for the law.

8. It is always going to a problem when one takes the high moral ground to justify a war.
   If Bush is following God’s will,then what sort of God do they have in Texas?

9. Judging by the way the Muslim world treats its own prisoners, I imagine they’ll be very unimpressed. Call that torture? etc

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