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John Quiggin 
I was wondering as to the source of the more-than-usual hysteria from the conservative side of politics and then read that Tony Windsor has assisted the Govt in getting carbon legislation over the line.
yesterdays ABC had a report of a woman murdered and buried in a deep grave.
todays fin had a report of the same but the grave was shallow.
who to believe?
todays ABC has “UK tabloid hacked murdered girls phone”.
the Guardian identifies News of the World.
yesterday in one of those shops that has the wireless burbling away in the background,i heard an authoritative voice state that people “consumers” are not spending money because of the carbon “tax”.
“lord” monkton is not a lord but a paid(by whom?)plausifier(my word–plausible liar)and not a publisher of peer reviewed science but an architect.
nit-picking whinge over.
@may
How can Mockton be a true Lord if his realm is not peer reviewed?
@may
Clearly each was reporting the depth based on digging from different sides of the planet.
I think the ABC is clearly wrong, by definition. A surreptitious burial of a murder victim is always in a shallow grave. No matter how deep it is.
Randy Wray weighs in to the Federal Budget debate defining “progressive”:
Randy Wray: A PROGRESSIVE APPROACH TO FEDERAL BUDGETING – Or, Can One Take Billionaire Pete Peterson’s Money and Remain Progressive?
How to pay down US debt QED: LET’S END THIS DEBT CEILING DEBATE WITH A $1 OZ. $1T COIN
ha, ha, jrbarch, the imprinted coin for debt exchange would make the insight that ‘money’ is ‘debt’ visible to everybody..