Great news!

The arrest in Serbia of Radovan Karadzic is great news for the world and for Serbia. For the many victims of the genocidal campaign undertaken by Karadzic’s regime in Bosnia, there’s the prospect of long-delayed justice. Of course, Karadzic is entitled to a fair trial, and a conviction is by no means certain, given the need to prove his personal responsibility, but at least the issues will be tried.

It’s excellent also as a signal that the new Serbian government is going to be part of the world, rather than persisting with the poisonous nationalism that has done so much damage (to ordinary Serbs as much as anyone).

Finally, for all those in governments around the world who even now are giving orders for torture and murder, it’s a reminder that no matter how strong their position might seem and how long they can evade justice, it will catch up with them in the end.

40 thoughts on “Great news!

  1. Lets not just just blame the Serbs,the european governments have blood on their hands. If they hadn’t rushed to recognise different states, before the U.N. could sort out the ethic problems. This wouldn’t have stop all of the blood shed, but a lot of families would still have all their male menbers alive.

  2. Melanie,
    Prosecuting Kissenger would not be possible as any alleged crimes would have been committed prior to the ICC’s foundation and they are expressly prohibited from enquiring into previous alleged crimes.
    Of course, how silly of us. The people responsible for the murders are not those with the guns in their hands or issuing the orders but some politicians recognising political reality. How silly of us.

  3. I don’t see Cheney going incognito as a new age healer any time soon, but I’d love to see him have to try.

  4. Andrew @ 27. Well Rumsfeld then or Olmert.

    Also the pro-independence referendum in B-H was won by an extremely narrow margin – about 51-49. Recognising political reality might more sensibly have involved calling for some negotiation between the parties. Instead, the West (led by H Kohl) charged in to recognise Bosnian independence. This doesn’t excuse the ethnic cleansers, but it was pretty irresponsible behaviour. You might call it throwing fuel on the flames.

  5. elanie – Milosevic refused to negotiate before the west recognised Croatia and Bosnia.

    Western recognition of those states was retaliation for Serbian intransigence not the cause of it.

    I agree that a process of negotiation with border adjustments and resettlement of ethnic minorities as well as guarantees of minority (i.e. Serb) rights in the newly independent states might have prevented much of the bloodshed.

    But it was Milosevic who blocked any such negotiation.

  6. Observa, in his ongoing quest ot post the msot innane and irrelevant links possible, has chosen to link to a story about legal action against the Canadian government for failing to obey its legal obligations under Canadian law relatign ot climate change.

    Because such action is obviously EXACTLY like an internaitonal prosectuion for war crimes.

    Presumabvly the point is that the dirty human-hating Greens care more about the environment that about human rights.

    This is, quite simply, contemptible nonsense.

  7. With Obama now saying it’s time to get out of Iraq and get serious in Afghanistan, perhaps we’d better indict him a priori, along with the usual suspects Bush, Blair and Howard. Well according to those who believe in the higher moral authority of that UN gaggle of unelected gangsters of course. Yes folks, you remember them. Those who worshipped the ground Arafat and Mugabe walked on. What a bunch of Malcolms they all are now, pontificating on the moral righteosness of their particular kinetic speed on the great slippery slope of history.

  8. You might like to consider Ian, that if we lose the battle for the Graveyard of Empires to the sons of Arafat and Ourmadjihad gets those nukes Saddam so long and oft coveted, we may come to view Radivan Karadzic as an early hero of the great clash of civilisations, assuming we eventually prevail. If not, clearly he was just another murderous infidel and where’s me prayer mat?

  9. You might want to conisder that if none of the various ludicrous apocalyptic scenarios you keep propounding come about that you will be considered a laughable paranoid.

  10. It strikes me as grossly offensive to Karadzic;s victimsto hi-jack this thread to provide yet another soundin board for Observa’s Islmaphobia and partisan spite.

    Having contributed to this by responding to Observa’s baiting, I will simply apology for my party in this and not respond further.

  11. “Observa’s Islmaphobia and partisan spite.”
    Hmmm… and just who is pressuring Iran to desist with enriching uranium? As for Afghanistan, I presume Rudd and now Obama are not just interested in a carpet buying trade mission? More mission accomplished I would have thought and just how are they going to accomplish that?

  12. “DEMOCRATIC presidential hopeful Barack Obama says Afghanistan might end up being tougher to subdue than Iraq, days after visiting both war zones.

    The White House hopeful told Time magazine in an interview that his two trips had confirmed in his mind many of his earlier thoughts about future US policy towards the two countries.

    “I think in Afghanistan, looking at the landscape and the extraordinary poverty involved, makes you realise what a daunting task our efforts there are going to be,” Senator Obama told Time.

    “It redoubles my belief, or deepens my belief, that if we’re going to get that done we’re going to have put in more resources.

    “Both issues (Iraq and Afghanistan) are very difficult. Both situations are very difficult, but it is not clear to me that in the long term Afghanistan isn’t a tougher job than Iraq is.”

    The Illinois senator has laid out a plan to start withdrawals of combat troops from Iraq as soon as taking office, and would hope to get most US soldiers out of the country within 16 months.

    He wants to divert at least two combat brigades to Afghanistan, amid worsening insurgent violence and security problems.

    Senator Obama is in the middle of a gruelling tour of Iraq, Afghanistan, Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories and Europe, meant to assuage fears among some voters about whether he is ready to be president.”

  13. For those of you who like to separate forcing our Judeo Christian, democratic, liberal values at the point of a gun onto the less well inclined, into good wars and bad wars, perhaps Pepe Escobar can be a bit more sobering than the naive Observa-
    In particular-
    ‘Obama for his part still cannot have grasped the full, complex, picture of what is going on the tribal areas – in his current world tour he’s only been to Jalalabad, in eastern Afghanistan, and only for a few hours. But he’s on a learning curve – although, for the moment, he seems to be playing to the US military establishment galleries, pledging to add 10,000 US combat troops to the Afghan theater of war. Al-Qaeda will be delighted.

    What Obama has certainly accomplished for now is a certified three-pointer – turning George W Bush administration and neo-conservative rhetoric about the “war on terror” in Iraq upside down and applying it to Afghanistan. Obama has been emphasizing the “growing consensus at home that we need more resources in Afghanistan”.

    In his press conference in Jordan, Obama also emphasized his decision to make Afghanistan the first stop on his world tour because it’s the “central front in the war on terror,” the place “where 9/11 was planned” and where “terrorists” are “plotting new attacks against the United States”.

    And here’s the clincher – straight out of the neo-con playbook, “We have to succeed in taking the fight to the terrorists.”‘

    Ah the high moral ground of the good war fans laid out so clearly before us all now. No sullied oil, WMD or Islamophobia to distract them from taking their noble, carefully targeted fight to the terrorists, but if the odd wedding party gets in the way, well you know how it is in the good war on terrorism folks. That aint no Sarajevo. However with no oil, WMD or Islamaphobia to worry about in Afghanistan and now Pakistan too it seems, it makes you wonder just exactly how and when it’s mission accomplished for these moral cleanskins. Well aint that the $64000 question rattling around in Observa’s morally confused head these days and Osama’s too by all accounts. Of course the Observa comes with the historical emotional baggage of his years to confuse the issues. He’s experienced freedom fighting heroes like Mugabe and Arafat become self interested, murderous thugs which might lead him to logically contemplate the reverse possibility, or even Obama and Bush still arguing over the high moral ground at their public beheading by the victors, should we lose Obama’s good war now. In that event no doubt the Observa will remain confused by the subtle nuances of it all and pray for guidance.

  14. observa, policy aside you have to admit it is simply brilliant politics; it’s left McCain nowhere to go. Obama is clearly anything but “confused”.

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