40 thoughts on “Monday Message Board

  1. I found this on an official site: https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Life/Chil
    “Children born in Australia automatically acquire Australian citizenship if at least one parent is an Australian citizen or permanent resident at the time of the child’s birth.”

    And this on an immigration advice site: https://gettingdownunder.com/baby-born-australia-babies-residency-citizenship-status/
    “If your baby is born in Australia and neither parent is an Australian citizen or permanent visa holder, your baby will generally automatically acquire the visa of either parent dependent on whichever visa is more “beneficial”.”

  2. @Mitchell Porter

    Re Anna Bligh; The failure to be re-elected must have been a significant disappointment and left her with a level of residual resentment that would have been a factor in a re-assessment of her allegiances.

    But she – and Beattie – were always neo-liberals and in favour of ‘profit’ as the fundamental meaning of life so it probably wasn’t much of stretch for her to cross to the dark side.

    lol and making my petty personal prejudices clear, I lost respect for her when she resorted to botox treatments to ‘improve’ her appearance.

  3. Ron I think you should read Singh v Commonwealth High Court [2004] which indicates in your example it would still leave the kiddie as an alien I assume not an Aussie!

  4. @Mitchell Porter
    If you’re a pollie in a position of substantial public profile whether a leader, minister, frontbencher, cabinet member of government etc ie, in a position to deal with high exposure media interrogation – you need to be a very competent liar as a primary job requirement – plain and simple. You need to stand up in front of a camera and argue (convincingly) for whatever the decision makers in your party/coalition decide is the best course of action (towing the party line) whether it’s something decided from an internal factional fight or from party donor pressure or the threat of a negative scare campaign etc. Even if it’s something you’re against personally and/or your constituency is against and/or the majority of the entire electorate is against.
    It’s the perfect apprenticeship for any fine honourable role such as a lobbyist for big banks, property developers, big oil, big pharma etc.
    The thing that really bugged me about the whole Bligh issue was that it was the ABC who provided her with endless airtime exposure to attack the Turnbull gov’s latest bank tax levy back in early May(?). Inner Sydney ABC mates helping their inner syd banking mates me thinks!

  5. Julie Thomas @28:

    “It’s clear I thought that Barnarby Joyce’s main principle is that ‘greenies’ are the enemy.”

    An important point, and one which I think is true of most right-wing politicians in the English-speaking world.

    In part it’s the fulfilment of a prediction made in the 1980s by environmental political scientist Professor Peter Hay, which was that political polarisation over environmental issues could see partisan hatred of environmentalists morph into partisan hatred of the environment. In part it’s also yet another example of the Federal Government we have had since 2013 having no constructive agenda whatsoever, simply a catalogue of vendettas against groups of people it dislikes and disapproves of, and against things that are valued by those groups of people.

  6. Steve a la Brisbane, placing floating solar panels on fresh water reservoirs where flat dry land is limited, such as Korea or Japan, may make sense. But at the moment doesn’t really make sense in Australia where we have so much flat land available at relatively low cost and we have an even better place to locate solar panels, which is on people’s roofs.

    Rooftop solar takes no land out of its current use, reduces the need for air conditioning, is extremely reliable as it is geographically distributed, and is very convenient for stabilizing the grid. (Currently the ancillary services provided by rooftop solar are mostly uncompensated.)

    But the main reason why rooftops win is because retail electricity prices are much higher than wholesale electricity prices that solar farms, or reservoir solar, receive.

    But as its costs come down, maybe floating solar will make sense in Australia. (I suspect the costs of other types of solar will fall further, but what do I know?) It certainly could make sense for hydroelectric and pumped hydroelectric dams to have their own solar farms, as transmission capacity is already in place.

  7. @Ronald
    Also, I think it should be a priority (and maybe it is) for the grid to be upgraded to cope with a high uptake of rooftop solar ie. the feed-in power from such.

  8. Troy, even if we place an optimistically low cost on the damages caused by CO2 emissions of $50 a tonne, it is clear we should be doing much more to encourage rooftop solar deployment and renewable generating capacity in general.

    The condition of the grid does vary considerably depending on location, but the amount of actual physical work that needs to be done for all electricity to be produced by rooftop solar at times is not particularly large, provided we accept that at some times and places some renewable electricity production will need to be curtailed.

    Given that people are dying from the effects of climate change, I think Distributed Network Service Providers (DNSPs) are generally far too pusillanimous when it comes to allowing distributed solar capacity to be connected to the grid.

  9. @Ronald
    Yes, I take your points re roof top.

    However, as far as your first suggestion (about how we have lots of flat land to use for solar farms): we do, but mostly far from the big population centres; and if you do cover half decent land with solar farms, it’s wasted for other purposes. (Unless you elevate the panels and let agriculture happen beneath them, I guess.) Solar farms on dams also have plenty of water to clean them with on hand.

    Floating solar farms on dams might upset a few recreational boaties, but that’s about it.

  10. Be careful of Wikipedia. Generalisations in economics can get you into trouble. This is why economists preface all comments with: “may” or “should” or even, “can”. This may clue you into the dangers of being too dogmatic about any prediction. I always think that economists are more like meteorologists. Their predictions are usually based on averages and percentages of confidence. Remember also the activities of speculators. This always makes financial markets more volatile. Professor Quiggin’s book covered the dangers of zombie theories. It remains the best effort from. Twenty-First century Australian economist!

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