Pasokification

That’s a term coined to describe the fate of the Greek social democratic (and nominally socialist) party PASOK, which implemented austerity measures in the wake of the global financial crisis, and was subsequently wiped out, with most of its voters going switching their support to the newly created left party Syriza.

In France, Germany and the Netherlands, much the same has happened with the Greens gaining many of the votes lost by social democrats. Broadly speaking, the more a social democratic party has gone for centrist respectability, the worse it has done. In Spain, the Socialist Party has formed a coalition government with the leftwing populist party Podemos. In Portugal, confusingly there is both a Socialist (anti-austerity) and Social Democratic (pro-austerity) parties. Unsurprisingly, the SDs have lost ground.

Could something like this happen in Australia. I’ve always been critical of the idea that the Greens could replace Labor as the main left-of-centre party. That’s because the policy differences between the two were less significant than the stylistic/cultural differences, which meant that the Greens appealed to a relatively limited section of the electorate.

However, with the massive overreaction to the unexpected election loss in May, Labor under Anthony Albanese seems to determine to test out the possibility of Pasokification. Having waved through the Coalition’s regressive tax cuts, and “big stick” energy laws, Albanese has now failed to offer any response to the fire emergency, opting instead to promote coal exports. He has trained all his attacks on the Greens and has had nothing to say about the government.

Our only hope at this point is to replace Labor with an opposition that will actually oppose the government, and push for serious action in response to the climate emergency. That will take time we don’t have, but I can’t see any alternative.

The underlying problem is the emergence of the three-party system (Trumpists, neoliberals and left-green) replacing the previous neoliberal consensus in which the dispute was between harder (Thatcherite) and softer (Third Way) forms of neoliberalism. The three party system is unstable, but it rarely leaves room for a soft neoliberal party of the kind Labor is becoming.

77 thoughts on “Pasokification

  1. “Could something like this happen in Australia.”

    How do the respective electoral systems in those various countries affect this? Isn’t Australian ‘preferential’ voting designed foremost to maintain the ruling duopoly in government?

    Too few voters here understand the preferential system workings. This mitigates against them voting 1 Greens, 2 Other, and so on, as they believe that as Greens votes are likely too small to win their vote won’t count at all.

  2. I think there’s more to this (global) story than is being captured here. Many of these “social-democratic” parties relied pretty heavily in the past on “working-class” voters who were rusted on for life. Much of that base came with manufacturing which has gone OS.
    The world is so dynamic now with social media, technology, networking, job security (lack of) etc. As can be seen by the myriad of voter surveys – the “economy” pretty much always lands on top – so one can understand the dilemma such “traditional” parties have finding their narrative/pitch especially with the ever growing importance on electoral financing and the various influences that brings.

  3. ““Could something like this happen in Australia.”
    How do the respective electoral systems in those various countries affect this?”

    France is a different case to the others mentioned in the OP. Here, their electoral system would likely maintain the liblab status quo.

    France, National Assembly. Two-round system… “Despite its name, the two-round system may resolve an election in a single round if one candidate receives enough of the vote, usually a simple majority. If no candidate receives enough of the vote in the first round, then a second round of voting is held with either just the top two candidates or all candidates who received a certain proportion of the votes. ” (Wiki)

    For example: Greece, Hellenic Parliament. Party-list proportional representation… “In these systems, parties make lists of candidates to be elected, and seats get distributed to each party in proportion to the number of votes the party receives…” (Wiki)
    In Australia the reverse happens vis-a-vis Greens and NP.

    Spain, Congress of Deputies. D’Hondt method… “For example, if a party wins one-third of the votes then it should gain about one-third of the seats…” (Wiki)
    In Australia the reverse happens vis-a-vis Greens and NP.

    Germany, Bundestag. MMP (Mixed-member proportional representation): Sainte-Laguë using regional fixed lists / FPTP… “Under MMP, two parties that each receive 25% of the votes may both end up with 25% of the seats, even if one party wins more constituencies than the other..” “The (Webster/Sainte-Laguë) method is quite similar to the D’Hondt method, but uses different divisors.” (Wiki)
    In Australia the reverse happens vis-a-vis Greens and NP.

    Netherlands, House of Representatives. Party list PR: Open lists: D’Hondt method …
    In Australia the reverse happens vis-a-vis Greens and NP (Greens and any other?).

    Portugal, Assembly of the Republic. Party list PR: Closed lists: D’Hondt method …

    Again in Australia for the Reps the reverse happens vis-a-vis Greens and NP. Vis-a-vis Greens and any other?

    &etc?

    The fix is certainly in.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electoral_systems_by_country

  4. There has been a number of govt specific issues on which Labor could have picked up on but a rather low energy lacklustre Albanese has let them slide by.

    We now have bipartisan support for the Morrison govt.

  5. “He has trained all his attacks on the Greens and has had nothing to say about the government.”

    Of course. The old commos used to keep their worst vitriol for the social democrats, not the tories. The proddies and the tykes were always more vicious to each other than either were to judaism or islam.

    It’s the rival tribe closest to you that is the threat, not the one you’re furthest from.

  6. PASOKification is a PR phenomenon. In contrast the Australian voting system for the lower house virtually guarantees a two party system. And this is reinforced by compulsory voting. If the ALP moves right there is nowhere for left wingers to go given preferential voting.

  7. Most likely, the Baby Boomers generation will have to pass away before Australian politics changes radically. The caveat on that is that a mega natural disaster or a serious economic/sustainability crisis could precipitate change sooner. Indeed, such a disaster or crisis could facilitate baby boomers passing away more rapidly. While people (mainly baby boomers because a subset of them currently hold the major reins of power and wealth) remain atomistically, comfortable, complacent and selfish, nothing will change.

    Cohorts do matter. They have different formative experiences which then set their attitudes for life, at least in most cases. Few people appear to be capable of a new thought after 40. The Baby Boomer cohort, as a whole, is incapable of comprehending the profound dangers and changes inherent in climate change and limits to growth. There are exceptions of course: scientists, philosophers and the (rare) economist. Many of those in the working cohorts are too busy keeping their noses above water, economically speaking, to contemplate and seek change. It will be left to a new young generation to carry the necessary revolution. Revolutionaries are usually under 40, often under 30, and sometimes under 20, especially at the time of peak agitation for change before the revolution proper commences.

    Note, I am 65 and thus a baby boomer.

  8. On most of the economic issues Labor is not pushing the centrist responsibility line. Chalmers and Swan for example are not pushing privatisation, and are speaking on the need to reduce inequality. They are very concerned about house prices for first home buyers, and are not deficit obsessed.
    That said, I don’t trust them (Chalmers and Swan), further than I can throw them, and they will, I think, abandon the bottom quintile if it will give them second and third quintile votes. Still they are mostly anti neo-liberal even if they are not as democratic socialist as I would like. So we will have to wait and see. And it is unclear how much the Left (Wong, Albanese and Mark Butler), will be able to get their way against the numbers of the Right. (Penny Wong’s biography gives a lot of insight into current internal ALP politics and is well worth a read).

  9. “Our only hope at this point is to replace Labor with an opposition that will actually oppose the government, and push for serious action in response to the climate emergency. That will take time we don’t have, but I can’t see any alternative.”

    Why isn’t taking over the Labor Party from the inside an option? Evangelicals did a great job of doing so with the Republican Party. Corbynites have done so somewhat less effectively in the UK.

  10. “Why isn’t taking over the Labor Party from the inside an option?”

    One word answer: politics 🙂

    The ALP is full of factional and union warlords and if you step of their toes, expect to feel their wrath whatever faction you belong to. Butler found that out in no uncertain terms with his public calls for reforming the senate candidate selection process – taking the selection away from the factional leaders and providing it to the party members.

  11. Not sure if my last post went through. I didn’t put it on the clipboard and I was prompted after submitting for a log in … [sigh] Maybe there should be la log in to comment function.

  12. Everyone has their fantasies. Some people’s are about sex, some are about playing in the national cricket team, some are about creating a true left party that can one day become the party of government.

  13. The ALP is full of masters of entryism and reverse takeovers so they are always alert to that being used against them. ALP groups like LEAN (enviro activists network) face constant suspicion that they’re Green entryists, for example, and seem to waste a lot of time making sure their actions and proposals are clearly distinguishable from Green equivalents “green but not Green”, and of course performative hatred of Greens. Strangely the right wing of the ALP doesn’t seem to face the same issue trying to distinguish themselves from Liberal/National/One Nation equivalents… perhaps because “mainstream entryism” is acceptable?

  14. There is a report this morning, in an Australian broadsheet newspaper that I refuse to purchase or link to, that Albo’s inner circle of counsellors and confidants is dominated by people from the ALP and trade union Left including Tim Gartrell, Mark Butler, Penny Wong, Jeff Singleton, Linda Burney, Sally McManus, Michelle O’Neill, Meredith Burgmann, John Faulkner, Paddy Crumlin, Tim Ayres, John Graham and Jenny McAllister. It is people like this who would need to part company with the ALP and throw in their lot with some left/green regroupment in order for the scenario suggested in the OP to unfold quickly.

  15. What American Army general was it who said “No, the Germans are the _opposition_. The _Marines_ are the enemy…..”
    In evolutionary terms, rabbits aren’t competing against wolves nearly as much as they’re competing against other rabbits.
    And I think everybody’s underestimating how hard the current Green leaders would fight against entryism from Labor.

  16. Chris Borthwick: “And I think everybody’s underestimating how hard the current Green leaders would fight against entryism from Labor.”

    Yes, I think something like this is true, although I would formulate it a bit differently. I think there would be concern about what a sudden influx of a large number of ALP members could mean for the culture of the Greens and for the Greens’ policy priorities. I think this would be the case irrespective of whether the influx was the result of entrism or of a more straightforward and open change of political allegiance by a significant number of disgruntled ALP members.

  17. My edit suggestion JQ – “Our only hope at this point is to replace Labor with ** an opposition**”
    ** an electable alternative**. It is a pity “That will take time we don’t have, but I can’t see any alternative.” Do a Michael Kirby and protest. See last quote. And measure social capital please.

    I listened to Eva Cox on LNL rn abc last night (1995 Boyer lectures?) and she sounded like a Gretta Thunburg compared to Labor.

    Paraphrasing Eva Cox (feel free to correct);

    – Paul Keatinng kicked off neoliberalsim and is having second thoughts now.

    – Social  Capital has disappeared so rebuilding social capital provides the buffer for “sacrificing” … something … such as for redustribution, climate change, tax reform etc.

    – and social capital will also the provide for a ” National Dividend ” to be paid to all regardless

    – Social Capital is not talked of measured or debated so we need to change that asap.

    I am awaiting the “Not Much Different” manifesto. Maybe by Quiggin, Cox & Bahnisch? Call it the “Not Much Different Policy Universal”. The centre is fragmenting so it needs a universal touch. And as you say below, social capital is in nodes and networks, not “the centre”.

    And you JQ, have seen and been reading and writing on / about this wall for years. Thanks for continuing to do this.

    JQ previously…

    Goodbye to CPD
    APRIL 17, 2015
    JOHN QUIGGIN

    “Like Mark Bahnisch, Eva Cox and a number of others, I’ve resigned as a Fellow of the Centre for Policy Development. It’s a sad day, since CPD has done a lot of great work, and I’ve enjoyed being involved in it. But the leadership of the Centre has taken a decision to move to the right in the hope of being more relevant to the policy process.”
    https://johnquiggin.com/2015/04/17/goodbye-to-cpd/

    The socialist objective
    JULY 31, 2015
    JOHN QUIGGIN

    “What this push shows is the extent to which Australia’s political class, including the Labor “Left” is saturated with the assumptions of market liberalism, to the point that even a cataclysm like the GFC and the subsequent recession/depression in most of the developed world has had no impact at all.”
    https://johnquiggin.com/2015/07/31/the-socialist-objective/

    We had best heed Michael Kirby’s call; 

    “Where are the students? Where are they speaking out? Where are they protesting? Where are they in the streets? Where are they able to voice concerns of the coming generation?” he asked. “They’re not visible, they’re not audible, and it is not good.”

    “Former High Court judge Michael Kirby has lashed the nation’s students for their failure to adequately protest misdeeds by government and demand justice for Indigenous Australians.”
    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/what-s-wrong-with-kids-today-they-re-not-radical-enough-says-michael-kirby-20191206-p53hq7.html

    “Social capital and end-oriented networks
    by JOHN QUIGGIN on DECEMBER 24, 2004

    …”To make innovation work in an end-oriented network, we need the kind of social capital, and also the kinds of technical protocols that encourage and facilitate sharing. What these are is a topic for further research. ”
    http://crookedtimber.org/2004/12/24/social-capital-and-end-oriented-networks/

  18. “And I think everybody’s underestimating how hard the current Green leaders would fight against entryism from Labor.”

    Who likes a fifth column other than an enemy?

    Speaking of the ALP siege, their talking head, Albo Mola, may have word of such… for by early next year The Greens may adopt a new method of party leader selection with members having the say.

  19. “Why isn’t taking over the Labor Party from the inside an option?”

    Did I wake today to news of a takeover of the Liberal Party being launched in NSW?

    ‘We have to listen to the science’: NSW Environment Minister Matt Kean
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/we-have-to-listen-to-the-science:-nsw-environment-minister/11787460
    “growing our economy .. underwrite prosperity .. future generations .. Australia the new Saudi Arabia of renewable energy… huge opportunity … solar …. hydrogen … riches .. NSW won’t be relying on carry over credits to meet our targets”

    Liberal MPs say there’s no use ‘beating around the bush’ — bushfires are stoked by climate change
    abc.net.au/news/2019-12-11/matt-kean-blames-bushfires-on-climate-change/11787498

    Level 2 water restrictions begin in Sydney today
    abc.net.au/radio/newsradio/level-2-water-restrictions-begin-in-sydney-today/11783232

    Climate change risk now the ‘new normal,’ warns advisory firm KPMG
    https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/am/climate-change-risk-now-the-new-normal/11787528

    The Big Four don’t speak to power. They speak for power.

  20. “It is people like this who would need to part company with the ALP and throw in their lot with some left/green regroupment in order for the scenario suggested in the OP to unfold quickly.”

    The Labor Party in its 125 history has proved to be extremely resilient. This is despite – or is it because? – disappointing, betraying and infuriating large segments of the left polity again and again and again and again.

    In all the countries where the old major left of centre has gone into terminal there has been a credible alternative left of centre of party to take its place. (Except France, where the PS has managed to die while the principal party to its left, the PCF, has also died – quite an achievement!). Who is going to replace the ALP? The Greens? I know we are in what was once known as the silly season, but, really, it’s all quite preposterous.

  21. With the BOM advising no serious rain until April/May, firies having to crowdsource for extra funds for face masks, cities and towns running out of water combined with Morrison’s clumsy and inept comments, I can see plenty of potential for a popular public uprising.

  22. It really is impressive that Australian Labor and its stalwarts refuse to learn from the repeated failures of similarly situated parties around the world. Instead, they adopt the model of the US Democrats, whose electoral futility and reputation for spinelessness continues on even up and until this day, despite former president Harry Truman’s famous and long proven admonishment:

    “I’ve seen it happen time after time… The people don’t want a phony Democrat. If it’s a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don’t want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.

    But when a Democratic candidate goes out and explains what the New Deal and fair Deal really are–when he stands up like a man and puts the issues before the people–then Democrats can win, even in places where they have never won before. It has been proven time and again.”

    Harry S. Truman, May 17 1952 “Address at the National Convention Banquet of the Americans for Democratic Action” https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/library/public-papers/129/address-national-convention-banquet-americans-democratic-action

  23. “It really is impressive that Australian Labor and its stalwarts refuse to learn from the repeated failures of similarly situated parties around the world”

    They don’t need to learn from what’s happening on the other side of the world, they need to get out there in voterland (with real people) and ask the *voters* why they didn’t vote for the ALP in the last election – and that’s exactly what they’ve done.
    Now, with that feedback, it’s up to the strategists, executive, power brokers etc to formulate a direction to steer the ship in and I’m sure that’s happening now (in quite robust discussions).
    Until then, various wannabe-francesco-schettinos from the right faction want a turn at the wheel to sure up their individual bases, and as a consequence, the party as a whole increasingly appears politically-negligent in their core function as an opposition voice to hold the government accountable.

  24. I do wonder if there really is much difference between Trumpists and neo-liberals . There are differences in their publicly stated ideologies , but neo-liberalism as practiced over the past 40 years differs substantially from that stated ideology. Trumps practice differs from his publicly stated ideology too. Tariffs disrupt trade but so do sanctions ,regime change, and war. Apart from headline grabbing tariffs and Trumps open vulgarity what difference is there ? The Republicans seem to be on board with the tariffs . I think the psychopathic tech titans might be too , Zukerberg recently had a secret meeting with Trump who now wants to stop the EU taxing Americas digital behemoths. Trump wants to force China to agree to punishing US style patent and copyright . They all fear China, because they cant buy the Chinese government. John Pilger says Trump is simply America without the mask. Paulene Hanson must vote with the Coalition more than 90 % of the time ? – even though she desperately wants to differentiate herself from them.

  25. “Paulene Hanson must vote with the Coalition more than 90 % of the time ? – even though she desperately wants to differentiate herself from them.”

    Crikey, that must be ≤5% more than the ALP!

    Birds of a feather seen pecking each other yet flocking together

  26. The consolation for progressive Aussies is that it’s a small and open economy with few vested industrial interests other than mining. And mining isn’t monolithic: ore exporters will be unaffected by the travails of coal. We’ve already seen very rapid growth in solar in spite of hostile government policy. Nothing Australian politicians can do will stop the slide in coal imports in Asia, or the boom in imported EVs driven by a competitive and soon superior TCO. And they can’t stop the climate deteriorating either. Denialism has a short shelf life now.

  27. The ALP is tied to the union movement. Close to 40,000 jobs are in coal mining in Oz. I guess it isn’t easy for an ALP leader to say to the mining division of the CFMMEU that our policy is to put all those people on unemployment benefits.

  28. It is pathetic that a politician can not tell 40,000 people, or one percent of the gainfully elmployed population, that they need to change their occupational specialty when right now 85% of the populations of the industrialized and industrializing world need to change their occupational speciality.
    A potential nationa leader should be able to tell them (coal miners in this instance) that they are in the same boat as everyone else. They have to adapt or they willl die even sooner than would be the case if the adapt.
    When it comes right down to it what are those 40,000 coal miners going to do when they are told that they have to adapt or die sooner? Are they going to go on strike? Are they going to cast their ballots for a party that lies to them? Yes they might do that. But what if there were not elections to start with?
    Then what are they going to do? Go on strike? Or might they become revoluttionaries and try to reinstate the institutions that created them? If they try to oppose those that have cancelled their sacred elections what kind of success will they have when they do not control the electro magnetic spectrum? How will they be able to organize without those “oppressing” them knowing what they are going to do before they themselves know it? I guess that means that the problem is not that a politician can not tell the coal miners that they must adapt or die. There just are not any politicians among the parties of the oilygarchy who want to tell them that. These leaders of the status go do not want to tell anyone else that either.

  29. Our energy and climate policies are being dictated by 1% of the population – is that a fair representation?

  30. Just to be safe. If the police of Australia are sitting around and waiting for the military to organize them to take down the people that are threatening their children (their future). The Police of Australia should stop waiting.
    Lets get down to brass tacks. It is the job of the government to protect its citizens from harm to the best of its ability. This mission became the task of the government way back along the banks of some river about 6000 years ago by my reckoning. The task back then was simple. The rulers build graneries to store excess crops to carry the poulation through times of drought or floods or pests. In addition they create an army to protect the population from the other main threat of the times, other armies that decided that they did not want to wait for an invasion to put their newly aquired skill sets to use and set out to acquire booty by conquest.
    There you have it. The job of the government and those controling its institutions is to protect its citizens. The details have changed through the succeeding melleniums though. Who gets to pass judgement on whether or not they are living up to their duty? The propoganda of the machine of the status quo is that the voters get to decide whether or not those in power are doing a good job and therefore should stay in power for another term until the next election.
    The propaganda of my miniscule machine of disruption on the other hand is that “the voters” are not qualified to decide whether or not the those in power should stay in power becasue they are not qualified to make that judgement due a number of factors. First and most importanly because they have not been trained for it. Second and also importantly because they do not have access to a reliable source of information about what is going on in the government and in the country.
    The obvious retort to my anti democratic charge is that I lack the training and the access to reliable information myself. FINE let us agree on that.
    People in the military on the other hand have access to additional sources of information. The police also have access to additional ways of collecting information. People in these institutions might not be formally in charge but they are crucial pillars of the government. Their ulimate loyalty SHOULD beong to the citizenry. Not to their supiriors or their subordinates.
    Sadly the behaviorial choices that many of the people employed in these institutions of state coercion will be motivated not by a desiire to serve the ciizenry but by a desire to serve their own families and become economically successful through maintaining their places on the economic ladder which are rungs above much of the citizenry, or even climbing higher up the economic ladder.
    This is the reason that the police of Australia can not wait for the military of Australia to get its act together. Are you the police officers of Australia qualified to take on the lawful but illegitimate leadership of Australia? The anwser to that question is simple. If you do nothing at this point you are proving by your inaction beyond any shadow of a doubt that the answer to that question is NO. You are to stupid to recognize where the danger to the future of your children is comming from or what to do about it.
    You are simply unqualified to lead.
    If you should manage to act and take possession of all the officers above the rank of 07 in the military and their heavy weaponry, and arrest the civilian leadership of the country for the crimes that they have committed and take control of the major media institutions of the country, including those that are privately owned then you will be proving by your conduct that you are in fact qualified to lead the country. At a minimum you have proven you could recongnize who the enemies of your nation are.
    That qualifies you more than most others.

  31. Oh yes I forgot you will have to gain the support of those in the military below the rank of 07 rather quickly. But you have an asset. Military people have been trained to support law enforcement people.

  32. Hugo: Teresa Ribera said it to the much smaller number of Spanish coal miners, with a generous social package. They did know that their jobs were doomed in the near future anyway and took the offered deal; there are no coal Panglosses in Spain.

  33. CK – “Lets get down to brass tacks. It is the job of the government to protect its citizens from harm to the best of its ability. This mission became the task of the government way back along the banks of some river about 6000 years ago by my reckoning. The task back then was simple. The rulers build graneries to store excess crops to carry the poulation through times of drought or floods or pests. In addition they create an army to protect the population from the other main threat of the times,”

    Megadrought likely triggered the fall of the Assyrian Empire
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/11/191114115951.htm

    The Neo-Assyrian Empire, centered in northern Iraq and extending from Iran to Egypt — the largest empire of its time — collapsed after more than two centuries of dominance at the fall of its capital, Nineveh, in 612 B.C.E. Despite a plethora of cuneiform textual documentation and archaeological excavations and field surveys, archaeologists and historians have been unable to explain the abruptness and finality of the historic empire’s collapse.

    …Through the archaeology and history of the region, Weiss was able to piece together how the megadrought data were synchronous with Assyria’s cessation of long-distance military campaigns and the construction of irrigation canals that were similar to its southern neighbors but restricted in their agricultural extent. Other texts noted that the Assyrians were worrying about their alliances with distant places, while also fearing internal intrigue, notes Weiss…

  34. Weiss’ previous research defined the 2200 B.C.E. global megadrought that generated societal collapse from the Mediterranean to China.

    https://www.betootaadvocate.com/entertainment/everything-cough-is-okay-cough-people-need-to-cough-relax-says-scotty-from-marketing/

    In a somewhat disjointed press conference this morning, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has issued a plea to the nation of Australia.

    Speaking from what he describes ‘as the best city in the world,’ Scotty from Marketing hacked through a short but sharp address on the bushfires.

    Following nearly 2 months of being Missing In Action as Prime Minister while the Eastern Seabord burns, Scotty explained everything is going to be okay…

  35. Prof Quiggin, if you include metallurgical coal, you get ~ 40,000 coal workers according to this ABC Factcheck: ***www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-11/fact-check-are-there-54000-jobs-in-thermal-coal-mining/11198150

    As per a previous post of yours, the first steps are now being taken to replace metallurgical coal with hydrogen to make steel.

    I’m prepared to cut Albanese some slack given the difficult situation he is in. I would like to think he knows those jobs will have to go eventually but sees no point in broadcasting that fact from the Opposition benches. Moreover, Australian coal is *relatively* clean: ***www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-27/fact-check-is-australias-export-coal-cleaner/6952190

  36. It’s bizarre, tonight on the drum ACT talking head Kate Carnell is praising the govt for its investment in renewables eg roof top solar.

    The reality is that successive LNP govts have been negative on renewables and it has been left to the largely unsubsidised public and private sector to carry the burden.

    This scenario has been repeated in the ongoing fire crisis, the govt has been busy spending money elsewhere and has left the burden with the volunteers and other community groups

    This makes a mockery of those preaching the free market for essential services – without a profit motive the work has been left to community cooperatives.

  37. Some incentives are viable. Too many incentives cause an energy sink. So for example think of subsidising monocultural corn growing for ethanol production to be mixed into the petroleum by regulatory fiat. Thats going way too far. Thats an energy sink.

    Some low key communist pilot projects, zero interest loans for real life Australians engaged in energy saving projects, And pushing up royalties until the pip squeaks … these are more in keeping with economic law. And also with free enterprise.

    Sometimes communist pilot projects are more in keeping with free enterprise. Like why am I not being employed herding goats to reduce fuel levels? I am ready Monday! Or any Monday or your choosing.

  38. Supposing I went around to your place and started choking you to death. Would you scream out your understanding of this shorthand phrase when I let you take a breath?

    Or would you go to your death not ever knowing the difference between Orwellian misdirection and shorthand?

    Just an hypothetical question.

    You don’t want answers for Australians. You have a different loyalty. You have a racial loyalty you won’t tell us about, or that you may not even understand properly.

    For example. Do you believe that the force of gravity is just space bending? Only racial privilege could maintain such degenerate idiocy.

  39. There may not be a single policeperson in all of Australia that reads this website. If all of the Australian policepeople that read this website are married they will be to busy to act on my advice. It could be that if there are any single policepeople that should ever be trying to expand their education by reading the classics here at JQ they are kept busy the rest of the day doing more important stuff than taking down the government. They are no doubt trying to track down Australia’s multitudes of serial killers and currency foragers.
    If what I have written was even ever showed to an Australian police official, by say the brother in law of a police official who just happens to read JQ, such an official might even wonder why I even bother to write things that are so far outside the mainstream narrative. It is nothing more than hoping to tilt a windmill by grabing one of its blades. A serious attempt to bring about a revolution in a western democracy by persuading the forces who keep the system in power to take power themselves would not be dependent on public appeals for support from an unemployed former real estate agent.
    The misunderstanding is I am not the serious attempt to bring about change that humanity can believe in. My hope is to be a catalyst. My hope relys on the internet in combination with serendipity. (Brother in laws)
    That is really nothing more than a silk thread to place ones hopes on.
    I often ask myself if the internet is what it seems to be. Or is there an unrecognized little known twist to the internet. If there were such a twist this twist could be working to my advantage or to my disadvantage. Or it might be a short term disadvatge and a long term advantage. No matter what the ultimate answer to that question the role that I have to play is clear to me. It is just to write about my interpretation of what is going on and what to do about it.

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