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  1. JQ, perhaps you missed this taken from the intoduction in the Keen paper posted earlier:

    “…This practice was replicated, rather than challenged, by subsequent Neoclassical economists – with some honourable exceptions, notably Pindyck (2017), Weitzman (2011a, 2011b), DeCanio (2003), Cline (1996), Darwin (1999), Kaufmann (1997, 1998), and Quiggin and Horowitz (1999)…”

  2. In The appallingly bad neoclassical economics of climate change Steve Keen mentions a number of times how it parallels the Sokal Hoax and cites Beyond the hoax: Science, philosophy and culture

    Mention of Sokal’s hoax grabs attention ramming home just how appallingly bad must be the predominant neoclassical economics of climate change.

    Sokal exploded risible postmodernist criticism of science. The post-postmodern pseudoscintific economics of climate change has effectively buried the actual science and hoodwinked the world into behaving as if it has more time, centuries of time, than it has to act on catastrophic climate change.

    “Beyond the hoax: Science, philosophy and culture
    A Sokal – 2010 – books.google.com

    In 1996, Alan Sokal, a Professor of Physics at New York University, wrote a paper for the
    cultural-studies journal Social Text, entitled’Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a
    transformative hermeneutics of quantum gravity’. It was reviewed, accepted and published.
    Sokal immediately confessed that the whole article was a hoax-a cunningly worded paper
    designed to expose and parody the style of extreme postmodernist criticism of science. The
    story became front-page news around the world and triggered fierce and wide-ranging …”

    https://physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Sokal
    scholar.google.com/citations?user=wWWEwk0AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra

    wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashionable_Nonsense

    Postmodernism Disrobed (in full)
    Richard Dawkins’ review of Intellectual Impostures by Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont.
    Published as ‘Postmodernism Disrobed’, Nature 394, pp 141-143, 9th July 1998 and, in abbreviated form, in A Devil’s Chaplain.
    web.archive.org/web/*/http://old.richarddawkins.net/articles/824

    abc.net.au/radionational/programs/ockhamsrazor/postmodern-science/3565830#transcript
    abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/post-modernism-explained/3553034#transcript

  3. ” A company founded and run by a man the prime minister, Scott Morrison, describes as “a very dear friend” has received more than $43m in government contracts since 2015, mostly from defence, while being a registered charity helping Indigenous businesses with advice.”

    From todays Guardian and could be a text book example of a ‘grey gift’ .

  4. Sunshine, much worse than a ‘just’ grey gift.

    This is underminingthe dreaming as prozletising by stealth;
    … ” Coleman had put hours of work into helping the business with “spiritual and practical advice”,…

    Having worked for consulting companies, come across pentacostals and seen charity “management fees” put into private pockets, I call bullshit on all this. What does ” proudly 100% indigenous owned” mean? All profit to them is the question. Akin to flag debate imo.

    ***
    “The unconventional charity run by Scott Morrison’s ‘dear friend’ Leigh Coleman

    “A company run by the prime minister’s mentor has received millions in government contracts and enjoys tax-free status as a registered charity helping Indigenous businesses

    “A company founded and run by a man the prime minister, Scott Morrison, describes as “a very dear friend” has received more than $43m in government contracts since 2015, mostly from defence, while being a registered charity helping Indigenous businesses with advice.

    “The company, ServeGate Australia, has as its founding CEO Leigh Coleman, who Morrison mentioned in his maiden speech as a key influence on his life. Its nominated charitable purposes are to increase Aboriginal employment and reduce welfare dependency.

    “Browne said Coleman had put hours of work into helping the business with “spiritual and practical advice”, and had not charged a fee, after being introduced to them by Indigenous Business Australia, 

    “Of the other two companies that Oringo said had received help, Muru Management Consulting was the only Indigenous-owned subcontractor shown as receiving work “…

    “The founder of Muru, Wiradjuri woman Donna Cowey, said she connected with ServeGate at an industry fair when she was trying to get her first defence contract. She succeeded in this by partnering with ServeGate, and then went on to get contracts in her own right.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/sep/04/the-unconventional-charity-run-by-scott-morrisons-dear-frie
    ****

    I searched re prozletising in Aust and found this, which is sorely needed, as Aust doesn’t even have a ‘duty of care’:

    FREEDOM OF RELIGION UNDER BILLS OF RIGHTS
    edited by Paul Babie and Neville Rochow

    FREE | 2012 | Ebook (PDF) | 978-0-9871718-1-8 | 464 pp

    DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/9780987171818 
    DOWNLOAD FREE PDF 

    “The Australian Constitution contains no guarantee of freedom of religion or freedom of conscience. Indeed, it contains very few provisions dealing with rights — in essence, it is a Constitution that confines itself mainly to prescribing a framework for federal government, setting out the various powers of government and limiting them as between federal and state governments and the three branches of government without attempting to define the rights of citizens except in minor respects. […]

    “Whether Australia should have a national bill of rights has been a controversial issue for quite some time. This is despite the fact that Australia has acceded to the ICCPR, as well as the First Optional Protocol to the ICCPR, thereby accepting an international obligation to bring Australian law into line with the ICCPR, an obligation that Australia has not discharged. Australia is the only country in the Western world without a national bill of rights. The chapters that follow in this book debate the situation in Australia and in various other Western jurisdictions.

    From ‘Foreword’ by The Hon Sir Anthony Mason AC KBE: Human Rights and Courts”

    https://www.adelaide.edu.au/press/titles/freedom-religion

    A pentecostal perjued herself in court in a court case I was involved in by nepotism and falsely representing herself as a’church leader’ when in fact her church had disendorsed her due to – overt prozletising. And via Barnados for child supervision to boot.

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